Thursday, October 05, 2006

Arggh!! I try to get out, and they just suck me back in!

This Mark Foley thing.... The Republican Congressman sending innappropriate messages to a male page.... If you didn't see the text of any of the messages, they are definitely creepy and inappropriate, and Foley should definitely not be in office.

A couple of point, though. As far as we are aware at this point, there isn't even the allegation of him actually touching anyone or molesting anyone, and, last time I checked, we don't send people to jail for really creepy emails.

Two, we also don't send people to jail for being gay. Nor are we supposed to crucify them in the public square, though for all their supposed support, the Democrats seem to spend more time publicly "discussing" someone's homosexuality than Republicans. I think of gay marriage and tolerance of homosexuality in general as different issues (for the record, I am fine with gay people marrying, though I think the government should only recognize civil unions, not the religious institution of marriage), so I don't see any hypocrisy in Republicans not condemning Foley for being gay. Is it hypocritical for the Democrats to make a huge deal out of it?

Ok, before you attack me for being soft on Republicans, it seems that some party people knew about the messages before they came out in the press. Foley, btw, asked a kid in one of them if he [Foley] made him [the kid] horny and if the kid could send him a picture. Yechhh! Makes me want to take a shower. So Foley was warned. I'm not sure if more messages were sent after that, I need to read up on it. Still, is there anything illegal about asking for a picture? He didn't ask for a nude picture, you know. He didn't touch the kid, or rape the kid, or anything like that, as far as I have seen. I'm not understanding why anyone besides Foley should punished for this.

EDIT: After more reading, I'd like to scratch the homosexuality section up there. It seems to not really be an issue except with Conservatives looking to blame the left. And supposedly some GOP leaders knew about the messages much longer than originally revealed. Is it ethically wrong that they didn't do anything about it except warn him to stop? Yeah, but I just can't get over the fact that it was just really creepy sex-related emails. I'd have to think that if someone had actually been molested by him, the press would have dug it up almost immediately. I'd bet every single page that might have had contact with Foley has already been interviewed by one arm of the press or another.

6 Comments:

At 5:52 PM, ignerens said...

Hey Ben. I'm more annoyed with all of the stupid conspiracy theories surrounding the Foley story than the story itself.

 
At 8:48 PM, scorcho said...

"Two, we also don't send people to jail for being gay. Nor are we supposed to crucify them in the public square, though for all their supposed support, the Democrats seem to spend more time publicly "discussing" someone's homosexuality than Republicans."
-Democrats don't care that he's gay, they care that he's a manchild loving hypocrite.

When doing a search, I actually found a couple of websites with organization titles such as "Concerned Women for America" which was really just a conservative site. They called out Foley as being gay (I'm pretty sure he's never spoken about his sexual preferences, as is not really required, as far as I know, to be a politician) and "hiding" it to keep republican votes. This made me feel sorry for him and support him, until I remembered that he made sexual advances to a child.

Also, they're looking into it, but he didn't just "send creepy emails." He wanted to meet one of the boys for "ice cream", and made lewd sexual comments to an underage male, which is considered illegal in some states I think.

If he said things like that to my child, they wouldn't have a chance to prosecute him, only to try and locate his body.

 
At 3:56 PM, Ben said...

Cool, people are commenting again, I wasn't sure if anyone was still checking.

I agree, the Democrats are not talking about him being gay, except as regarding the hypocrisy of some Republicans. I just think the fire everyone who knew he sent creepy emails thing is overdone.

Is NAMBLA involved in this at all? Will a future episode of South Park make the connection (or did the last one, I missed it)? These are the important issues.

 
At 10:45 AM, Anonymous said...

Glad to see you back on line. I've missed being able to keep up on the world by reading your blogs. Foley is a creep. I guess there's a fine line here between freedom of speech versus really gross and disgusting. But , so far he's lost face and that is his due.

 
At 10:46 AM, Anonymous said...

Glad to see you back on line. I've missed being able to keep up on the world by reading your blogs. Foley is a creep. I guess there's a fine line here between freedom of speech versus really gross and disgusting. But , so far he's lost face and that is his due.

 
At 1:29 PM, ignerens said...

NAMBLA's been used in so many jokes for so long, that I alway thought it was a made-up organization! Finally decided to look them up today to find out

 

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